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Posted on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 03:45

Salams Just got back from Indonesia and whilst i was there, i discovered there are quite a number of people who strongly believe in the power of witchcrafts (or ** bomohs ** as they are called) even though they are muslims from good backgrounds. I argued that this is not possible as nonone has the might or power except Allah (swt), but they related seemingly convincing stories about charms, healings of the sick and people possessed by spirits. They even related that a muslim religious leader died from an illness which doctors cannot find any cause or cure for and all said an enemy had put a hatred charm on him. The religious teacher refused to go to any bomoh and his condition worsenend, causing his death. They even said it is common that many of their women have engaged the help of the bomohs to make them likeable by men. They said this is possible because the person (bomoh) maintains a jinn to do the job. Jinns are said to have powers unlike humans. In fact someone also mentioned that perhaps a charm has been put on me by a previous rejected suitor and that is why marriage proposals for me now never materialises; something will prevent the union, either due to my own decision or the suitors'. They asked me to go see one of these **enlightened** ones which i utterly refused. I was laughing so much when i heard this that they warned me i could have worsened the charm with my disbelief and laughing !!! I still absolutely do not believe in such assumptions, but i am curious about the Jinns.... What does correct Islamic teachings say about them?? And what about those who are said to be able to drive ghosts and evil spirits away ?? How can ghosts and spirits be capable of causing harm to humans??? Anyone can enlighten on the subject??


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Posted on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 09:10

wa'alaikumsalam brother duranduran Wow! That's interesting to know and your explantion helped clear some confusion... Thanks a lot.


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Posted on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 06:57

assalamualaikum...Dear friend...Genie/Jin is created first before humans and their age is much longer than us,..like 10000 years ,30000 years.and ALLAH bless them with stuff that humans dont have.Like invicible,change their form into animals and humans even fly...if we can see them maybe they are more of them than us, far as i know witchcraft do exist, withcraft works with evil genie/Jin and syaitan. they're two kinds of Jin , Jin ISLAM and JIN MUSYRIK,it's happened once in the time of nabi ALLAH MUSA. when he fought against withcraft and DEFEATED them, it could happened ONLY by ALLAH SWT permittion. Most withcraft use Jin musyrik or syaitan to help them in their work, they do it for a price,like a worship (naudzubilah min dzalik). But Jin can't harm us directly because we're totally in different kind of dimension with them mostly Jin do it with media,and humans are the right media...but we give ourself up only to ALLAH, and insya ALLAH , nothing such those could even get close to us. in one of the Surah ALLAH say " all the power that they have(in this case Jin and human)if I do not permit it that is shall not be permitted"....The One The Mighty ALLAH SWT. To prevent them we can read Ayat Qursi or ANNAS when Jin musrik hear this no matter how much power or amount of them , INSYA ALLAH they can't get near you.


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Posted on Mon, Mar 26, 2007 03:10

None taken!! Hmmmmm.....maybe we could see how we could do it without going against the law???


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Posted on Mon, Mar 26, 2007 01:33

Sir, it's precisely for the Islamic Law against it, that i'd rather do without your escort.... :p [no offence meant]


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Posted on Sun, Mar 25, 2007 11:04

It means people of knowledge. See if you can find the tafsir of ibn Kathir and read the tafsir on surah Falaq.


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Posted on Sun, Mar 25, 2007 05:03

Ma'am if it is not for the Islamic Law against it, I would volunteer my services to escort you home!


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Posted on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 13:21

Assalamualaikum Thanks brother for the surahs! I 'll remember to do just that !! I never previously believed that spirits could harm humans or that sihr was real, but now i must admit it has somewhat triggered a fear factor in me. There is a shorter route to my home which i would take after work whenever i finish late, but I would pass by a graveyard! Already now i am planning an alternative because driving alone through this place may trigger my imagination!! LOL! I have never liked watching horror movies or reading horror story books since young because of my power of imagination. I used to do drama / theatre works & stage decor and to be able to do a part well or to decorate the scene, i would emerge myself in the character and relive the situation. At times, i guess, the less we know, the better!!!


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Posted on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 11:34

Assalamualaikum Brother, sorry i am not familiar with the term **ahul'ilm**. Who are they? Anyway i am still grateful for your efforts of **copying & pasting** :) Sister, you said you have witnessed spirits and jinns in your own life?? Amazing! Was it scary? Are they harmful?? You've got my attention because i used to think this was just a figment of man's imagination and that is how they create horror movies and stories.... I am also not familiar with the event that a spell was cast on the Prophet (bpuh) when he was traveling from Mecca to Medina. What happened and how was the spell broken?


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Posted on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 11:20

Recite the 3 Quls, ayah Kursi are what I remember right now.


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Posted on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 11:18

Recite the 3 Quls, ayah Kursi are what I remember right now.


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Posted on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 11:11

As salaamu alaikum, Sister I can't take credit for that which isn't mine. What I posted is copy pasted from ahul 'ilm. The little bit that I do know on most topics I respond to won't have enough meat to sink your teeth in. Besides I try to stick with ahul 'ilm because they have the knowledge and must be listened to.


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Posted on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 11:06

As salaamu alaikum, Sister I can't take credit for that which isn't mine. What I posted is copy pasted from ahul 'ilm. The little bit that I do know on most topics I respond to won't have enough meat to sink your teeth in. Besides I try to stick with ahul 'ilm because they have the knowledge and must be listened to.


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Posted on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 10:55

Assalamualaikum brother You had put in a lot of effort to type in all the details on this subject. It must have taken a lot of your time and i sincerely appreciate your diligence. I never knew so much on this topic as i do now. But must admit, it is scary to know that Sihr is real !! All it takes is some evil intended person to engage in this action and it could harm the innocent?? Are there any ways that one can be protected from the ill effects of Sihr, without deviating from the practises of Islam? Jazakallah khair once again...


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Posted on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 06:19

Is witchcraft real? Is it permissible to seek treatment from practitioners of witchcraft Question: Is there anything such as witch doctors? What should we do if someone says "I don't believe in magic" because "this is just an illusion"?. Answer: Praise be to Allaah. Sihr (witchcraft or magic) is a word referring to something hidden. It is real and there are kinds of witchcraft that may affect people psychologically and physically, so that they become sick and die, or husbands and wives are separated. Its effects happen by the will of Allaah. It is a devilish action, most of which is only achieved by means of shirk and drawing close to the jinn and shayaateen (devils) by means of that which they love, and it is based on associating others with Allaah (shirk). There are doctors who are also practitioners of witchcraft, who treat people by means of seeking the help of the jinn. They claim to have knowledge of the sickness with no need to identify it, and they prescribe for the patient foods and drinks that bring him closer to his allies among the devils. He may tell them to slaughter a pig whilst saying ?Bismillaah? over it, or to slaughter a permissible animal without saying ?Bismillaah?, or when saying the name of one of the devils. This is kufr or disbelief in Allaah, and it is not permissible under any circumstances to go to people like these. The hadd punishment for these people is execution. It has been proven from three of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) that the practitioners of witchcraft are to be put to death. The Standing Committee was asked a question about this matter, in which it was said: Please note that in Zambia there is a Muslim man who claims that he has with him a jinn, and the people come to him and ask him to treat their sicknesses, and this jinn states what their treatment should be. Is that permissible? They replied: It is not permissible for that man to use the jinn, and it is not permissible for the people to go to him seeking treatment for sickness through his using the jinn, or to meet any other need by this means. Seeking treatment through human medical doctors and using permissible medicines is sufficient and means that there is no need for that, and it keeps people safe from the sorcery of the magicians. It was narrated in a saheeh report that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ?Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.? Narrated by Muslim. And it was narrated by the authors of al-Sunan and by al-Haakim, who classed it as saheeh, that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ?Whoever goes to a soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad.? This man and his companions from among the jinn are regarded as being among the fortune-tellers and soothsayers, so it is not permissible to ask them anything or to believe them. Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa?imah, 1/408, 409 Shaykh ?Abd al-?Azeez ibn Baaz said: Given that there are so many charlatans lately, who claim to be doctors and to treat people by means of magic and witchcraft, and they have become widespread in some countries and they exploit the na?vet? of the ignorant, I thought that in the spirit of sincerity towards Allaah and His slaves, that I should explain the grave danger that this poses to Islam and the Muslims, because it involves dependence on something other than Allaah and going against His command and the command of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), so I say, seeking the help of Allaah: It is permissible to seek treatment according to scholarly consensus. The Muslim may go to a doctor to seek treatment for internal diseases, injuries, nervous complaints, etc, so that he can identify the disease and treat it in an appropriate manner, using medicines that are permissible according to sharee?ah, based on his knowledge of medicine, because this comes under the heading of using the ordinary means, and it is not contrary to the idea of putting one's trust in Allaah. Allaah has sent down the disease but He has also sent down with it the cure; those who know it know it and those who do not do not. But Allaah has not created the healing for His slaves in that which He has forbidden to them, so it is not permissible for the sick person to go to a soothsayer who claims to know the unseen, in order to find out from them what is wrong with him. And it is not permissible for him to believe what they tell him, because they speak of the unseen without knowledge, or they summon the jinn and seek their help in doing what they want. The ruling on these people is that they are kaafirs and misguided, because they claim to have knowledge of the unseen. Muslim narrated in his Saheeh that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ?Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.? And it was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ?Whoever goes to a soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).? Narrated by Abu Dawood and by the four authors of al-Sunan; classed as saheeh by al-Haakim who narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ?Whoever goes to a fortune-teller or soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).? And it was narrated that ?Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ?He does not belong to us who observes bird omens or has that done for him, or who seeks divination or who has that done for him, or who practices witchcraft or has that done for him. Whoever goes to a soothsayer and believes what he says has disbelieved in that which was revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).? Narrated by al-Bazzaar with a jayyid isnaad. These ahaadeeth demonstrate that it is forbidden to go to soothsayers, fortune-tellers, witches and the like, and ask them questions and believe them, and a warning is issued to those who do that. Community leaders and those in positions of power and authority must forbid going to fortune-tellers, soothsayers and the like, and not allow anyone who deals in such things to operate in the marketplaces or elsewhere. They should denounce them emphatically, and denounce those who go to them. We should not be deceived by the fact that they may get things right sometimes, or by the fact that many people go to them, because they are ignorant and the people should not be deceived by them. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade going to them, asking them questions and believing them, because that is a great evil, a serious danger and leads to bad consequences, and because they are immoral liars. These ahaadeeth also indicate that soothsayers and witches are also kaafirs, because they claim to have knowledge of the unseen, which is kufr, and because they only reach their goals by serving the jinn and worshipping them instead of Allaah, which is kufr or disbelief in Him and associating others with Him (shirk). The one who believes them and their claims to have knowledge of the unseen is like them. Everyone who goes to these people and deals with them, is disowned by the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). It is not permissible for the Muslim to accept what they claim is a kind of treatment, such as their muttering mumbo-jumbo or pouring lead and other kinds of nonsense that they do. This is a kind of sorcery and deception of the people. Whoever accepts that is helping them in their falsehood and kufr. Majmoo? Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 3/274-281. Secondly: With regard to witchcraft (sihr), it is real and is not an illusion, and it may have an effect by Allaah?s leave. Al-Quraafi said: Sihr is real, and the person against whom it is done may die, or his nature or habits may be changed, even if he does not deal with it himself. This was the view of al-Shaafa?i and Ibn Hanbal? Al-Furooq, 4/149. The Mu?tazalis, Qadaris and some of the scholars held a different view, but no attention should be paid to that. Al-Quraafi and others mentioned that the Sahaabah were unanimously agreed that it is real before there appeared those who denied that. The evidence of Ahl al-Sunnah concerning that is as follows: 1. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ?but the Shayaateen (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Haaroot and Maaroot, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, ?We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us).? And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allaah?s Leave. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not? [al-Baqarah 2:102] This verse clearly indicates what we are trying to say, which is that sihr (witchcraft) is real, and that the practitioner of witchcraft may create a division between a man and his wife thereby, and that he may harm people by means of his witchcraft, but he cannot do any harm except by Allaah?s leave. 2. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): ?And from the evil of those who practise witchcraft when they blow in the knots? [al-Falaq 113:4] ?those who practise witchcraft when they blow in the knots? refers to female witches whose witchcraft involved tying knots then blowing into them. If witchcraft were not something real, Allaah would not have commanded us to seek refuge from it. 3. Further evidence is provided b


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Posted on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 06:08

Question: Is every practitioner of magic or witchcraft a kaafir? Answer: Praise be to Allaah. The practitioner of magic is the person who uses the shayaateen (devils) and gets close to the jinn by doing the things they like ? such as sacrificing to them instead of to Allaah, calling upon them alongside Allaah, obeying them by disobeying Allaah by committing zinaa, drinking wine, eating haraam things, neglecting prayer, covering himself with najaasaat (impure things) and staying in dirty places ? until the shayaateen respond to what he asks them, with a gentle and kind approach, to do, such as harming the people against whom he uses his magic, causing division between a man and his wife, telling him some unseen things, and telling him about stolen items and where lost things are. Such a person is a mushrik and a kaafir, because he worships both Allaah and the Shaytaan, which is major shirk (al-shirk al-akbar). So he is a kaafir, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning); ?Sulaymaan did not disbelieve, but the Shayaateen (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic? [al-Baqarah 2:102] ?but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, ?We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us).?? [al-Baqarah 2:102] It was also commanded that the practitioner of magic should be executed, because of the hadeeth: ?The hadd (prescribed punishment) for the practitioner of magic is a blow with the sword (i.e., execution).? (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1460; al-Daaraqutni, 3/114; al-Haakim, 4/360; al-Bayhaqi, 8/136; see al-Silsilah al-Da?eefah, 3/641, no. 1446) On this basis, he is a kaafir even if he prays, fasts, reads Qur?aan and makes du?aa?, because shirk cancels out all good deeds. And Allaah knows best. Al-Lu?lu al-Makeen min Fataawa Ibn Jibreen, p. 11.


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Posted on Thu, Mar 22, 2007 06:04

Question: i would like information on majic (jadoo) what are the consequences and can people use it to kill people. Answer: Praise be to Allaah. Yes, there is sihr that can kill. When discussing different forms of murder the scholars have mentioned that the person who kills another by means of a kind of sihr that usually kills should be executed (qisaas ? retaliation), because he has killed by means of something that usually kills. Ibn Qudaamah said in al-Mughni (9/330): ?The sixth kind: if he killed him by means of a kind of sihr that usually kills, then he has to be executed, because he has killed by means of something that usually kills, like killing by use of a knife. If he killed by means of something that does not usually kill or something that sometimes kills and sometimes does not, then he has to pay diyah (blood-money), but qisaas is not required, because he intended to do harm, and it is akin to beating someone with a stick (which may or may not kill).? The ruling concerning the saahir (practitioner of sihr) in al-Mawsoo?ah al-Fiqhiyyah (24/267) says that in the case where he killed a person by means of his sihr? the majority say that killing by means of sihr may be done deliberately, in which case qisaas is required. According to the Maalikis, evidence or a confession is required. According to the Shaafi?is, if the person whom the practitioner of sihr killed was his equal , then qisaas is required if the killing was deliberate, which may be proven by a confession on the part of the saahir, such as his saying ?I killed him by means of my sihr?, or ?I killed him with this type of thing?, supported by the testimony of two reliable witnesses who have practised sihr in the past but have now repented, who can confirm that this kind of sihr usually kills. If it is a type that does not usually kill, then the matter is more akin to manslaughter. And Allaah knows best. Islam Q&A Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid


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Posted on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 22:15

assalamu aleykum, Hazrati Sulayman(aleyhis-selam) ordered the jinns to build the Aqsa mosque He was commanding them he had power over them because he ruled the world as he was one of Allah's prophets. There are things best not to know the lest damage you will get.


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