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Posted on Wed, Jul 26, 2006 12:17

What are the rules for a muslim man who wants to marry a non muslim women?


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Posted on Sat, Oct 18, 2008 18:16

There should be some kind of fatwa to prevent them. There are way too many non-Muslim women marrying Muslim men while we, Muslim women and non-Muslim men aren't allowed. It is unfair to us and to the other men. Hope some Muslim country will start forbidding that soon. Plus after we are told that Muslims can't date, 80 % of these Muslim men date the women before marriage. Chastity isn't only for women!


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Posted on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 06:28

My handheld won't allow me to edit. That last post should read,"they weren't simply akbar sahaaba, they were govenors..."


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Posted on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 06:26

My handheld won't allow me to edit. That last post should read,"they weren't simply akbar sahaaba, they were govenors..."


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Posted on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 06:53

As salaamu alaikum, Wow, false fataaws huh. Let us follow the orders of Allah wa His nabi SAWS and we will clearly see that false fataaw is based on accounts by an nabi SAWS and the sahaaba. During the caliph of 'Umar some of the akbar sahaaba married or were married to non-muslim women. 'Umar ordered them to divorce their kufr wives not because it was not permissible, his reasoning was that kufr are not to be raised to a high status and those sahaaba were akbar sahaaba thus giving their kufr wives a high status. Sorry I do not remember the sahaaba that argued with 'Umar, but his position was that 'Umar had to provide proof from the Qur'an and/or sunnah that marriage to non-Muslim women was not permissible. 'Umar stayed in another letter that he sent to this sahaaba that that is not the position he holds. His position is that of Allah wa an nabi SAWS, which is the kufr are not to be put in a high position and/or status over the Muslims. Not only were these akbar sahaaba, they were govenors. So since we can not agree on which ayah to follow, nor the sunnah, we can look at the understanding of the sahaaba whom Allah was pleased with and they were pleased with Him. By the way they are the "our" in the who ever does not follow our way it is rejected, stated by an nabi SAWS. So ponder over this and you will see that it is permissible for men to marry people of the book. If it were not, Allah would not have stated that He completed our deen until He let it be known that, those people are no longer considered people of the book, or marriage to people of the book is only for an nabi's SAWS time, or whatever. Allah stated that our deen has been completed, and before He stated that all that was only for a certain time was removed Islam, such as 10 sucklings for a child to be part of your family and temporary marriage. So my dear Muslims proof for your positions from the three sources must be presented, not your opinions. This is part of our deen. And 1 of those parts will never contradict the others.


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Posted on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 06:50

As salaamu alaikum, Wow, false fataaws huh. Let us follow the orders of Allah wa His nabi SAWS and we will clearly see that false fataaw is based on accounts by an nabi SAWS and the sahaaba. During the caliph of 'Umar some of the akbar sahaaba married or were married to non-muslim women. 'Umar ordered them to divorce their kufr wives not because it was not permissible, his reasoning was that kufr are not to be raised to a high status and those sahaaba were akbar sahaaba thus giving their kufr wives a high status. Sorry I do not remember the sahaaba that argued with 'Umar, but his position was that 'Umar had to provide proof from the Qur'an and/or sunnah that marriage to non-Muslim women was not permissible. 'Umar stayed in another letter that he sent to this sahaaba that that is not the position he holds. His position is that of Allah wa an nabi SAWS, which is the kufr are not to be put in a high position and/or status over the Muslims. Not only were these akbar sahaaba, they were govenors. So since we can not agree on which ayah to follow, nor the sunnah, we can look at the understanding of the sahaaba whom Allah was pleased with and they were pleased with Him. By the way they are the "our" in the who ever does not follow our way it is rejected, stated by an nabi SAWS. So ponder over this and you will see that it is permissible for men to marry people of the book. If it were not, Allah would not have stated that He completed our deen until He let it be known that, those people are no longer considered people of the book, or marriage to people of the book is only for an nabi's SAWS time, or whatever. Allah stated that our deen has been completed, and before He stated that all that was only for a certain time was removed Islam, such as 10 sucklings for a child to be part of your family and temporary marriage. So my dear Muslims proof for your positions from the three sources must be presented, not your opinions. This is part of our deen. And 1 of those parts will never contradict the others.


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Posted on Thu, Sep 14, 2006 09:31

Nurfitrah, I agree we shouldn't make halal-haram and vice versa based on our emotions, desires, etc. My question is, who told you most ulama state only a marriage between two muslims is halal? If that is the ruling you accept, fine. But don't sit here and tell us that "BOTH man and woman MUST BE MUSLIM for the marriage to be VALID IN ISLAMIC LAW, aggreeable by most ulama' or Muslim scholars." We all know most of the ulama agree, with the previous stated conditions, that marrying a woman of teh book is islamically acceptable. Are we seeing a pattern here folks. I state a position from a scholar I respect that is in contradiction to a position of a scholar you respect. This is Islam. There are differences of opinion even among the ulama. That is the beauty of Islam, the diversity. So, let's all try to state what we follow, assuming it has a basis within the incredibly large realm of Islam. I will do my best, inshallah, to also do the same. Let's also try to add some sort of context to our statements. Salaam.


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Posted on Wed, Sep 13, 2006 08:00

Assalamualaikum my fellow Muslims, BOTH man and woman MUST BE MUSLIM for the marriage to be VALID IN ISLAMIC LAW, aggreeable by most ulama' or Muslim scholars. Don't be influence by any fatwa or law made by people who are not qualified to make fatwa or law halal or haram. Giving reasons, "a lot of people do so, we also could do so" are not necessary following the correct path. We don't want THE BLINDS FOLLOWING THE BLINDS AND ENDED UP IN THE HELL FIRE! Don't try to make fun of any Islamic Rulings of any issues. The ones who are QUALIFIED to make fatwa and hukum halal or haram are the responsibilities of the Ulama' or the Muslim scholars and we are NOT QUALIFIED to do so. If we convey the wrong fatwa and hukum, halal or haram, afraid we shoulder other people sins and ending up in the hell, so don't try to make fun of Islamic Rulings or laws. My advice who try to marry the non-Muslims, back to the Islamic True teaching, and don't try to follow your emotions and desires. If your marriage IS NOT VALID IN ISLAMIC LAW, you are falling into sins, sleeping with the partners are making zina or unlawful sex because the marriage is NOT VALID in the Islamic Law. So don't try to make fun of the Islamic Laws. Don't try to make fatwa or Islamic Law, to confirm halal or haram, when we are NOT QUALIFIED to do so, afraid we could shoulder other people sins and ended up in the hell fire! Servant of ALLAH.


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Posted on Wed, Sep 13, 2006 05:38

Aslmkm MountMusa Firstly I agree totally with u that there shud never be any form of force in religion. For the majority of cases (I stress here: majority & not all), non muslims begin to take an interest in the teachings of Islam when they happen to fall in love with a muslim. And the mere fact that there is this preferred requirement of muslims marrying muslims is what compels them to do research on Islam in the first place. If you were about to marry s/one of another religion like Buddhism or even Christianity, would u have any urgency to learn about that religion b4 marriage? My argument is to urge critics to look beyond these restrictions and analyse the reasons behind them. For most of us when we tell our friends we have become muslims, their first reaction would be ?WHY ISLAM?? Where there are sooo many restrictions!? But Islam is the only religion where there is a spiritual, practical & even scientific reason behind every seemingly rigid rule that is administered. It is like telling children to eat vegetables n they protest but the fact is that vegetables are good for them. When u explain Islam in a directive manner ??No you can?t or Yes, you must?, it would be harder to swallow than if you can give logical reasoning. Noticed I mentioned about children in my comment? Marriage is hoped to be a long term relationship. No doubt there are many who convert after marriage but are u in a position to determine this wud definitely happen? It is fine when the couples are on their own, but when the initial lovey dovey stage phases out n complacency sets in and when they have children, this difference of religion could be the very cause of marriage problems. The mother is the one who nurtures the children as the father is often busy earning a living. Who would influence the children more? I know of a couple who kept their separate religions. They were having a blissful marriage initially. When they had children, they were supposed to be muslims. But later the children favoured their mother?s practices. They loved their mum?s way of celebrating Christmas, Easter, Valentine?s Day, Halloween, hugging friends on meeting, etc. Eventually the kids insisted on converting to Christianity. Today, the family is separated n all 3 children are with their mother?.the father weeps alone. What did we have here? No force?no compulsion?No pressure...No More Marriage? Example?.like the doctor?s advice?Do not smoke?Bad for health?No one can force u to stop?.but eventually when u do suffer as a result of your smoking, do you blame the doctor? salams / fatima


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Posted on Tue, Sep 12, 2006 07:44

Fatima22,I agree with everything you just said....but what is your argument? What are you trying to say? btw, the vast majority of the non-Muslim women who marry Muslim men, eventually become Muslim themselves. This is a blessing from Allah swt. However, they can't be pressured or forced into the conversion. There is no compulsion in religion, for any reason.


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Posted on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 10:20

Every child is born on the inclination of Islam because Islam means surrender, submission and obedience to the Creator's Will. The gestation period, the function of the genes/body, etc is in accordance to the Creator's will. And one who practises Islam is called a Muslim. It is their parents who raise them up to be Christians, Buddhists, etc. In a marriage where the husband & wife practise different religions, which religion should the children follow? Are you not creating confusion for your children? Or are you leaving the child alone to grope for a sense of direction? With careful consideration, we should be able to see the reason and benefits behind this rule about muslims marrying muslims. The beauty of Islam is that it is a complete way of life. For every one of the rules that we are told to follow, we can find logical reasons behind it if we are able to regard it without prejudice and judge it by the purity of the teachings rather than by the behaviour of errant followers. When you love and appreciate someone, it is only natural that you would want to do things according to what that person likes or wishes If we love our Creator and are grateful for the Blessings He bestows upon us, should we not want to please Him also according to His Will? And Allah has mentioned His Will in the Quran. In the Quran we can also find amazing facts, which scientists are only now discovering, but which are mentioned some 1400 years ago. This proves that these knowledge can only be known by the Creator Himself. But we still doubt the Quran and its contents? When we buy a electrical appliance, we readily follow the instruction manuals on how to use it. When the doctor prescribes cures or medicines for us, we obediently follow his advice. But when our Creator gave us the instructions for the correct way of life in the form of the Quran, and medicines to cure our social illnesses in the form of the Hadiths, have we given a thought as to why we ignore or try to find a way around these essential instructions?


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Posted on Mon, Sep 11, 2006 07:00

Read the ayat from baqi9 again. It is widely accepted amongst almost all the ulama that it is Islamically acceptable for a muslim man to marry a non-Muslim woman. As long as they believe in God, and they agree that the children will be raised Muslim. Obviously there are difficulties in that, and many social implications. However, it is halal. They don't need to convert or promise to convert for the marriage to be halal. Prophet Muhammad saw married non-Muslims as a means to have relations with non-Muslim tribes and peoples. Many muslim women will say it is not allowed, because they are angry that a muslim man would pass them up for a non-Muslim woman. But nonetheless, it is perfectly acceptable in Islam, as long as those two conditions are met.


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Posted on Sat, Sep 09, 2006 08:28

Assalamualaikum my muslim brothers and sisters, BOTH man and woman MUST BE MUSLIM for the marriage to be valid in Islamic Law and bless by Allah. Aggreeable by most ulama' or Muslim Scholars, NOW there are no more People of the Scriptures among the Jew and Christians. Because their Books or Scriptures are already been altered and corrupted by men. Now the Books or Scriptures are NO MORE in original forms, so there are no more the People of the Scriptures (Ahli Kitab) now. Some Muslim scholars said the People of the Scriptures (Ahli Kitab) among Jews and Christians only available during Prophet Muhammad's (s.a.w) times, but NOT NOW. Wallahu a'lam Allah knows Best. Servant of Allah.


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Posted on Tue, Aug 08, 2006 19:50

Marrying a non muslim woman, but a believer (christian or Jewish) is allowed in Islam, even if she does not convert. However, women are not allowed to marry but a muslim. the reason behind this logic in Islam, is that the man is the head of the family and the children will carry his faith, but not the mother's.


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Posted on Tue, Aug 08, 2006 16:37

Bismillahirrahmanirrahim, I here so many things.one must know what islamic law allows and not shout things which are false.The one who gives false fatwa is accountable for the one he gave it to. Ofcourse the easiest way is to marry a muslim woman.A muslim man can marry non muslim women if they accept the oneness of Allah. People of the book today donot all believe they just say they are christian/Jewish. If a woman accepts God as 1 then a muslimman can marry her.Allah knows best.


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Posted on Tue, Aug 08, 2006 05:08

An-Nisa 4:23-24 tells us who are forbidden to marry. Al-Ma'idah - 5:5 Made lawful to you this day are At?Tayyib?t [all kinds of Hal?l (lawful) foods, which All?h has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.). The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of All?h and in all the other Articles of Faith [i.e. His (All?h's), Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and Al?Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers. (Al-Ma'idah 5:5) No one can argue with the Qur'an and Sunnah.


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Posted on Sat, Jul 29, 2006 07:14

according to sharia (Islamic Law)a muslim man/woman CANNOT marry a non muslim.


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Posted on Sat, Jul 29, 2006 02:02

asalamlualiekum my reply to you brother is that Allah never said in his holy book Al-quran that men is allow to marry nonmuslim woman because the consecuenses are very tuff after, Allah and his messenger Muhammad (salalahu aleihi wa salam ) marry (christian & jews) them until they believe he Muhamad(saw) he married a jew Safiyyah but he told her accept islam and i married you also he married a christian Maria but until they believe once they accept he married them . We have to do what Allah says not what we want just think in the next life you will be with her but if she is not a muslim she will go to the hell fire, (May Allah protect us from the fire)and if Allah didn't chose this woman to be a muslim and you have children with her you will have to divorce her and take the childen from her weather she like it or Not so please read correctly what Allah is telling us to do, not what we want, to be successful in our lives thanksyou asalmaualiekum


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Posted on Fri, Jul 28, 2006 19:15

Do not marry women who associate [others with Allah] until they believe. A slave girl who is one of the believers is better for you than a woman who associates [others with Allah], even though she may attract you. And do not marry men who associate [others with Allah] until they believe. A slave who is one of the believers is better for you than a man who associates [others with Allah], even though he may attract you. Such people call you to the Fire, whereas Allah calls you, with His permission, to the Garden and forgiveness. He makes His Signs clear to people so that, hopefully, they will pay heed. (Surat al-Baqara: 221)


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Posted on Fri, Jul 28, 2006 01:01

There are rules but the man has to be a good example for her. I think converting to Islam is must or there is no unity in the house hold because of different religion.


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