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Posted on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 03:51

When free wahtching Tv is my favourate time pass.I like discovery or natinal Geography channel. My hobby of watching TV just making me more bored. There is flooding of pro jews documentaries, so called concentration camp stories,and pity of people of new born country of Israel in such channels or english moovies.. A period of 5 yrs or a decade has still huge importance in christian dominant world to flood the TV shows that you get bored and bored. As a citizen of noneuropean non american country and nonjewish person I have nothing to do what happened 60 yrs back. However what todays christian dominant world is trying to show us is too boring thing. christian can feel guilty about what they did to jews in past but todays reality of sufferings of palestinian for more than 60 continuous yrs is more needed to be told to the people of world.


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Posted on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 07:36

It is really disapointing fact thatjews for jesus has silently disappered. He atleast was trying to present his christian faith to convince and prepare convert from muslim society. CLAIMING TO BE SUNNI MUSLIM IN profile, hiding his true faith and fighting for christian causes and atlast just disaapearing with all of his text written shows how evangelicals misguide us.


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Posted on Sun, Aug 05, 2007 12:08

REMARK: Before I became a Christian at about age 30 years I was upset by Christian programing also. The Christian programs you see are paid for by donations from Christians around the world. They play the programs on what station they can buy the time. The Christians soul purpose is so people around the world will have a chance to hear the good news of God's love. The good news for is thousands of people come to know Jesus through these programs and their sinful lives are changed. My wife became a Christian right hear in the United States watching one of these Christians programs. That was back some thirty years ago.

It would be nice if those Christians donating to these trashy programs they call "from G-d" do us all a favour and cut it out. People have heard the "good news" already, and we aren't accepting it. So why won't you give up? We are Muslim and proud of it! I assure you that the average Muslim knows quite a bit about Christianity, way more than Christians know about our religion. We don't buy it, so stop trying to sell!


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Posted on Sat, Aug 04, 2007 16:25

REMARK: What you are saying is we are all going to Hell to suffer for our sins we committed before we find Allah. So going going to Heaven is based on our works and not God's grace. That is not what Jesus teaches RESPONSE: That is EXACTLY what Isa teaches, as did Ibrahim, as did Musa, may peace and blessings of Allah (SWT) be upon them. As I said before, the grace of Allah (SWT) is what decides who gets into Heaven. Good deeds are a manifestation of faith; you can't have one without the other, or you're basically a hypocrite. Allah decides, regardless of what a person does in his life, who spends all of eternity in Jahannum. He pardons who He wills and punishes who He wills. I've already explained all of this; look at my other posts. REMARK: Lets assume you are correct we are born without the nature to sin, just like Adam. Because we have the right to choose we are going to sin, and like yeast in doe 1 piece of yeast contaminates the whole lump. RESPONSE: We don't believe in that concept. Each person is a separate entity responsible for his or her own deeds. That is very clear in Islam. REMARK: My friend God does understand your struggle and He will forgive you, but only when you accept by faith what He did on the cross for you; and that being He died for your sin and on the third day He rose from the dead so you can have newness of life. RESPONSE: I accept the true faith, and I happily submit my entire being to Allah Almighty and to Him only. I would NEVER insult His majesty by accepting a man as my G-d or as my 'saviour', even a man of such noble character as Isa bin Maryam, may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. 'La ilaha ilah Allah.' THERE IS NO G-D WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH.


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Posted on Sat, Aug 04, 2007 16:17

RESPONSE: Sure it makes logical sense, when you consider the fact that Allah (SWT) already knew and told us that His word would be corrupted, and that it hadn't reached all nations yet. When He decided to reveal it in its entirety to ALL nations, He sent a prophet, Muhammad (SAWS) to reveal it, and assured us that it would be the last time, because he was sent for ALL mankind, not just for Israel or any particular nation. REMARK: You still didn't answer why He couldn't protect His word. The New Testament is for all nations and people. These are the words of Jesus. RESPONSE: I did answer the question. It was the will of Allah and a test to mankind to see how we could remain faithful to Him and His word. He blessed the nation of Israel to be the bearers of His word and the nation of prophets. They chose to slander and kill His prophets, and to corrupt His word. That is what He enabled them to do through their free will. It was Allah's (SWT) will that all this would come to pass, so that he could show the world a lesson through Israel what happens when you blaspheme Him. He cursed them as a nation, stepped in and stripped them of their status as His most loved nation, and entrusted the dissemination of the Word to mankind through another nation. RESPONSE: Allah (SWT) sent clear guidelines as to what the laws were, and how to follow them. It's in our nature to WANT to follow all the laws; it's just our selfish desires that cause us to go against that. Allah (SWT) is Compassionate and Merciful, and He knows that although He made us perfect (fitrah), free will causes us to behave in an unperfect way. That's why He tells us in the Holy Qur'an to seek refuge in him against Shaitan, against our own selfish whims and to submit to Him as He showed us how, in the examples of the Prophets, peace be upon them, and the Holy Qur'an. If we do that, we can't go wrong. In His Mercy and Grace, He decides who He fe...


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Posted on Sat, Aug 04, 2007 16:12

REMARK: One can have knowledge about something but not have wisdom. It is one thing to have knowledge of what it is like to be confined to a human body, you gain wisdom when you live it. I can not understand the pain of you losing your mother until I lose my mother. Again, you're speaking from the perspective of a HUMAN. Allah (SWT) knows all, and His Wisdom is infinite. He doesn't need to 'experience' it, as you say, in a human body. Who knows better how a thing works than its Creator?


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Posted on Sat, Aug 04, 2007 07:25

This message for jews for jesus. Why dont u accept that you r christian? Be honest and accept what have u written. Will I again see sunni muslim in ur profile? As an adult of about 27 years old I had my first experience with God. I was standing at 12,00 feet in our Rocky Mountains looking out over the vastness realizing how small I really was. I believe God spoke to my heart saying "I made all this." At that moment I knew for sure there was a God, but I didn't know Him. REMARK: Before I became a Christian at about age 30 years I was upset by Christian programing also. The Christian programs you see are paid for by donations from Christians around the world. They play the programs on what station they can buy the time. The Christians soul purpose is so people around the world will have a chance to hear the good news of God's love. The good news for is thousands of people come to know Jesus through these programs and their sinful lives are changed. My wife became a Christian right hear in the United States watching one of these Christians programs. That was back some thirty years ago. REMARK: My desire is you come to know the love of God and what He has done for you. Not


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Posted on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 10:07

REMARK: (1) As Christians we believe man is born with a sin nature that is why we do not have to teach a child to lie, steal or be selfish. We also believe this sin nature makes a servant to Satan even if we are ?good? people. This sin nature we are born with makes us dead to God. It is only through the spiritual rebirth are we reunited to God, and able to love and serve Him. If you know the creation account you will remember with me that God said to Adam at the moment he ate the forbidden fruit he would surely die. He did die physically at that moment, but he did die spiritually. (2) Man is made up of three parts. First and foremost man is a (spirit) which is the eternal part of man (the real you). This spirit lives in a human tent or we call it a body (flesh and blood). You have a soul which is your mind, will and intellect. (3) You say God is not be limited. God has placed a limit on Himself God does not lie He only tells the truth. RESPONSE: I was a practicing Christian for most of my life, and found it horrible that a god would somehow make us 'imperfect' and set us up for failure from the start. Allah (SWT) doesn't make imperfection, so it's ludicrous to believe that He would create a soul with impurities on it, to be frank. We add those impurities by going against our natural inclinations, His way, and following our own way. We don't have to teach children how to do bad things because Shaitan is there to do it, and a person can follow him blindly or submit to Allah (SWT). I also find it incredibly cruel and tyrannical to punish ALL for the actions of ONE. That's not a god I'd like to follow. SubhanAllah, I found Islam and I know what it's like to serve a loving, merciful God who understands my struggles and forgives when I am sincere and ask him for forgiveness for my shortcomings. I gladly submit my will to Him and let Him mould me in which way He will.


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Posted on Sat, Jul 21, 2007 09:54

REMARK: Please explain why God did not protect His Holy word from the prophet Moses and from the LORD Jesus, but did protect the Quran. This does not make logical sense. RESPONSE: Sure it makes logical sense, when you consider the fact that Allah (SWT) already knew and told us that His word would be corrupted, and that it hadn't reached all nations yet. When He decided to reveal it in its entirety to ALL nations, He sent a prophet, Muhammad (SAWS) to reveal it, and assured us that it would be the last time, because he was sent for ALL mankind, not just for Israel or any particular nation. REMARK: How can one keep all the Law? If you break one law you are guilty of breaking all. The reason God gave the law was not because he thought man could keep the Law, but to show man how sinful he was and how much he needed a savior. Even in the courts of the world if you repent of your breaking mans law you still have to go to jail or pay a fine. RESPONSE: Allah (SWT) sent clear guidelines as to what the laws were, and how to follow them. It's in our nature to WANT to follow all the laws; it's just our selfish desires that cause us to go against that. Allah (SWT) is Compassionate and Merciful, and He knows that although He made us perfect (fitrah), free will causes us to behave in an unperfect way. That's why He tells us in the Holy Qur'an to seek refuge in him against Shaitan, against our own selfish whims and to submit to Him as He showed us how, in the examples of the Prophets, peace be upon them, and the Holy Qur'an. If we do that, we can't go wrong. In His Mercy and Grace, He decides who He feels did their best in submitting to Him in the face of His test (life). He determines to mete punishment, or to pardon, as is His will. According to the Islamic view, hell isn't for all eternity for everyone. It is meant to purify. The fire and suffering cleanses a sinful soul, and after it is purified, it is fit to enter paradise.


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Posted on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 23:38


Re: JewsforJesus write: this message for american4islam ----part 3---- REMARK: thank you for your response. What does a Muslim do about their sin? Doesn?t sin separate us from God, and keep us from going to Heaven? RESPONSE: Belief is the key to the way of life. We must strive to please Allah (SWT) by putting the principles of faith into action by trying to live in the best possible way with the best possible character. This is known as Greater Jihad. Just belief in Allah (SWT) isn't enough. As you know, no one had greater belief in Allah (SWT) than Shaitan, but he used his free will to oppose Allah's will and not to submit. All of us are sinners, but Alhamdulillah, when a person decides to sincerely repent and submit to Him, Allah (SWT) wipes the record of all his sins clean. REMARK: I am [not] trying to be rude but they do equal one. One (1) bottle of ice + one (1) bottle of steam + one (1) bottle of water liquid = H2O. All are water expressed in 3 different ways but still water H2O RESPONSE: Again, I say that 1+1+1 doesn't equal three. You cannot compare three separate natures of one substance to what you claim to be three separate entities! Allah (SWT) can't be compared to anything He created anyway, because His Nature never changes or can be destroyed, unlike chemicals and other matter that He created. The composition of H2O can be destroyed and broken up into separate oxygen and hydrogen atoms. The same goes for the human body, being a created thing. Allah (SWT) can neither be created or destroyed because He is not human.


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Posted on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 23:25

REMARK: Why do think the words of the Holy Prophets Moses and Jesus (of course I do believe Jesus is a prophet but God) have been corrupted, but the words of your prophet have not. Are you saying God was not able to protect and keep pure the words of Moses and Jesus? RESPONSE: The Holy Qur'an states in several verses that people tampered with divine Books that Allah revealed to previous Prophets: "Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say 'This is from Allah' to get a small price for it; therefore, woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they earn." (2.79) Even the highly regarded compilations of sayings (hadith) of the Prophet (pbuh) contain many entries whose authenticity has always been the subject of disagreement among scholars. Therefore, the Holy Qur'an, the words of Allah (SWT) Himself, is called 'al-Furqan', the Criterion, for good reason. It is THE standard by which we judge ALL opinions, actions, texts, and previous revelations. One aspect of the uniqueness of the Qur'anic text is that it did not change over time. This is the view of the overwhelming majority of scholars, both Muslim and non-Muslim. The Qur'an itself proclaims that it is protected by Allah against any attempt to tamper with it: "Verily, it is We who revealed the Remembrance [the Qur'an], and verily, We are its Guardian."(15.9) Verse 41.42 stresses that the Qur'an will remain protected against any form of falsehood at all time: "Surely those who disbelieved in the Remembrance (the Qur'an) when it came to them (were wrong); surely it is an impregnable Book (41.41). Falsehood cannot come to it from anywhere; [it is] a revelation from One who is Wise and Praised." (41.42) The Qur'an that we read today is the same Book that was revealed 14 centuries ago. This is in contrast to the Old and New Testaments which, though slightly influenced by previous divine Books, been written an...


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Posted on Wed, Jul 18, 2007 22:59


Re: JewsforJesus write: this message for american4islam ----part 4---- REMARK: Sin is what makes human imperfect. We inherit our sin nature for our father so we all are imperfect from birth. Jesus even as the Quran says had no human father therefore was born sinless or perfect. He committed no sin during His stay in human flesh. Even the Roman governor who had Him crucified said he could find no fault in Him. Jesus never got sick. He did get tired because the human body needs rest and He ate because it needs food. You say it is impossible are you putting a limit on God? RESPONSE: Sin does make humans imperfect, but sin constitutes ACTIONS, not a 'nature'. Muslims believe that all humans, like all things created by Allah (SWT), are born with the natural inclination to submit to Him. This is called fitra in Islam. Therefore, everyone is born with a clean slate. It's a person's parents that teach them values that may make them steer away from this. Also, free will makes people free to continue with submission to Allah (SWT) or to leave it. That's where Shaitan comes in, to tempt people away from Allah. It has nothing to do with the way people are born. The human body needs rest, it needs nourishment. Therefore, NO human could be Allah (SWT), Who needs none of these things. REMARK: True Adam had no father, and he was created sinless. Adam as all humans was given free will, the right to choose. We all know what Adam did he made the wrong choice. Isaiah was not born of a virgin. RESPONSE: Adam (pbuh) made a wrong choice, and he sincerely asked Allah (SWT) for forgiveness. Allah (SWT) forgave him,praise be to Him. End of story. Even the Blessed Prophet (pbuh) himself said: 'There is none whose deeds alone can secure salvation for him.' He said, 'Not even I, but that Allah (SWT) wraps me in His forgiveness and mercy.' Allah (SWT) does what He wills. Isa (pbuh), btw, is the Arabic name for Jesus Christ (pbuh).


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Posted on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 16:39

JewsforJesus write: This Message for american4islam ----Part 1---- REMARK: This is the rest of Jesus' remarks to the non Jewish woman; [And He answered and said, "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." But she said, "Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters' table." Then Jesus said to her, "O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish." And her daughter was healed at once.] We either being Jew or Gentile receive from God by faith. No.2 He is did come for the 'lost sheep of the house of Israel.', but that does not exclude the Gentiles, as you can see from the rest of the story. Jesus also healed the beloved servant of a Roman Captain. RESPONSE: Again, the Bible is NOT the unaltered version of Allah Almighty's word. We don't take much in the Bible for truth, because the Bible is highly doubtful and corrupted. Besides, no respectful Muslim would think that Isa (pbuh) was that low and ridiculous to call the Jews the masters and Gentiles their dogs!


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Posted on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 16:36

REMARK: Something I did not know. At a certain age do they choose to become Muslim? RESPONSE: It has nothing to do with age. It's what's in a person's heart. Once someone believes with their whole heart and soul the words of Allah (SWT), the Holy Qur'an, and the teachings of the Prophet (pbuh), which is hadith, that is iman. An external manisfestation of that is Islam. REMARK: GOD IS ONE. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are ONE. RESPONSE: NO, they aren't. They are three. 1+1+1 does NOT equal 1. MY QUESTION was: Is it impossible for God to come to earth and to dwell in a human body being born out of a woman?? RESPONSE: Yes, it is impossible. Allah (SWT) Almighty can NOT be imperfect. Humans are imperfect and bound by limitations of a human body. Isa (pbuh) needed to sleep, eat, and relieve himself. He got sick and tired just like any other human. Therefore, I say that is is impossible. REMARK: True Jesus is not the son of a man. That is why your book say Jesus had a miracle birth he had no earthly biological father. RESPONSE: The Holy Qur'an says that Isa had a miracle birth because Allah (SWT) willed it so. He was not the son of a man, but neither were Adam (pbuh) or Hawa (may Allah be pleased with her), who, by your reasoning, must be gods also, and had FAR more miraculous creation. For Adam (pbuh) was created from dust, and Eve was created from a man, not born of a woman.


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Posted on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 16:27

JewsforJesus write: This Message for american4islam ----Part 1---- REMARK: This is the rest of Jesus' remarks to the non Jewish woman; [And He answered and said, "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." But she said, "Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters' table." Then Jesus said to her, "O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish." And her daughter was healed at once.] We either being Jew or Gentile receive from God by faith. No.2 He is did come for the 'lost sheep of the house of Israel.', but that does not exclude the Gentiles, as you can see from the rest of the story. Jesus also healed the beloved servant of a Roman Captain. RESPONSE: Again, the Bible is NOT the unaltered version of Allah Almighty's word. We don't take much in the Bible for truth, because the Bible is highly doubtful and corrupted. Besides, no respectful Muslim would think that Isa (pbuh) was that low and ridiculous to call the Jews the masters and Gentiles their dogs!


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Posted on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 16:14

REMARK: It doesn?t matter what you and I think, what matters is what God?s Word says. I know you believe Moses was a prophet of God and this is what he had to say when under the inspiration of God. ?Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." Moses also said this: And the LORD God said unto the serpent (Satan), Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. RESPONSE: You are right. It doesn't matter what we think. However, Allah Almighty made it VERY clear that NO MAN or creature that He created is to be worshipped as Him, in place of Him, or alongside Him. In the Holy Qur'an, the complete, UNALTERED Word of Allah (SWT), Prophet Musa (pbuh) is respected, as is Isa (pbuh), because we are told that they brought the direct word of Allah (SWT), which was later changed to suit the needs of man. The words you spoke above 'might' have been Moses' (pbuh) or maybe not. We can't be sure because the Bible is corrupted and not the message that Allah (SWT) sent by his prophets (pbut). Therefore, the Bible holds no weight when it comes to the deen of Allah (SWT). We don't believe the Bible to be anything other than a corrupted form of Allah Almighty's original message, which was sent in its final, pure form with Rasulillah (pbuh) as the Holy Qur'an. Allah (SWT) promised us that the Holy Qur'an would not be corrupted or changed, and it hasn't. The Qur'an that was brought by the Holy Prophet (pbuh) and cherished by Muslims then is the SAME Word of Allah that is cherished and loved by 1.2 billion (and growing!) ...


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Posted on Sat, Jul 07, 2007 17:44

assalamualaikum,...far as i know the real bibble was never been found, the real bibble(kingdom bibble) has dissapeared or been changed along with ISA's AS death , the many kind of bibble were exist and their revition in the present are made base on what Paus Paulus wrote and ISA's student diary, Paulus combined all these along with that in the Christian community there are some points of debats on God in their own version, One in Three, Three in One or both ,3 can never be 1, and the same as 1 can never be 3 ???,confusing,...it is the lack in what Paulus' taught, Paulus was the real messenger for Christian not ISA, Paulus' opinion was the one who taught and made the condition that God is in three-one or One-three condition till the present day. ISA never taught that, what ISA brought was the same point in Taurat, Zabur, Injil(real bibble(the kingdom bibble) and next on Al-Qur'an...it's the word in LA ILA HA ILALLAH. Even though the word ALLAH is separated on it's own letter by letter structural, it still has the same meaning,The One God, One that doesnt give birth, One that isn't born either, we don't expect to see or imagine on how ALLAH in shape, but see the creation, like wind, can't see it but feels it. mankind's mind isn't created to think in that such capacity, brain has its limits but faith doesn't. Paulus was the one who responsibles for what it remains till now,


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Posted on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 03:09

This is for Jews for Jesus: Isa (pbuh) said that he came for the lost sheep of the tribe of Israel, not for all mankind. He said that another would come for that. Even the Jews knew of another prophet after the Messiah, as they queried John the Baptist of who was. They asked, "Are you the Messiah? Are you the Prophet?"


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Posted on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 03:07

This is for Jews for Jesus: One is not Muslim because their parents are Muslim. One comes into knowledge of Islam, surely, because of that, but only by having Iman can one come into Islam, regardless of whether they are a 'born' Muslim or revert.


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Posted on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 03:01

This is for Jews for Jesus: * Note, May peace be upon the prophets -- Remember His ways are far above our ways. Is it impossible for God to come to earth and to dwell in a human body being born out of a woman?? * It's unnecessary. As the brother said before, all these are discredits to Allah (SWT). He says in the Holy Qur'an: "They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity, for there is no god except One Allah." (Qur'an 5:73). In the Bible, we have Isa and his view on G-d. "The most important one," answered Isa, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one." (Mark 12:29) He said "OUR G-d", which included him to be under Allah Almighty's creation and Divine Authority, and not someone or an entity that is equal to Allah Almighty. The Bible's New Testament also records 'Isa saying: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good?except God alone." * Here's another jewel from Scripture: "God IS not man, that He should lie, or a son of man, that He should change His mind. Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not fulfill it?" Numbers 23:19 -- Remember His ways are above ours. No God does not have a weakness. I believe it to be shallow for one to think God could not come to earth and live as human in a human body; or that some how this would make Him less than the ALMIGHTY ALL POWERFUL GOD. * I believe it shallow to think that G-d NEEDS to come down in a human body. In the Holy Quran, Isa was no more than a Messenger of Allah and His Word, which He bestowed on Maryam and a spirit created by Him. Isa is only one of Allah's servants and creatures. Isa was a word from Allah (SWT) that He bestowed on Maryam, meaning Allah (SWT) created him with the word 'Be' that He sent with Jibril to Maryam, and he was created and sent by Allah (SWT) as a Messenger. Jibril blew the life of Isa into Maryam by Allah's leave, ...


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