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Raza2017
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Posted on Sat, Apr 22, 2006 16:33

By living in the west for 20 years and being raised up here I see and question myself. What do the Muslims owe to the west??? What do WE as individuals owe to the west??? At one place I see our own people critizising that they are Muslims, yet they are involved in drug dealing and crimes. Our own attitude has lead the west to think Muslims as a burden on the society. Yet by looking back just 100 years, Muslims were the most respected humans and the earth. We cannot change the past and what has happened, we need to change the present and ourselves. We owe a lot to the West. They provide us with free education, social security, welfare system, free medication and many more. What do the so called "Islamic Countries" provide??? Nothing. You cannot even raise your voice against the government, or else this can mean death or jail sentence. I hear many so called "Muslims" saying that the west doesn't provide a jack sh** and claim that the best countries are "Islamic countries". they do not realise how much the Western government (which they live under) have supported them. What we need to do is change ourselves. Don't fight over small issues, eliminate jealously in our own communities, and encourage education among ourselves. This will be a very good contribution to the societies we live in the west. What do we owe to the West is a key question I would therefore request you to think about. Raza


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ajjubaba
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Posted on Mon, Apr 24, 2006 21:44

salam what about north south east


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Posted on Sun, Apr 23, 2006 17:26

Bismillahirramanirrahim, We owe all to Allah, we owe the west nothing.Allah created the east and the west.Alhamdulilah. Propet Mozes(Musa) peace upon him was raised by the Farao What did Mozes owe Faroa.answer nothing.Allah makes us live in certain places the earth belongs to him. If true power were in the hands of the non-believers we would not have rights. [2.107] Do you not know that Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and that besides Allah you have no guardian or helper?


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Posted on Sun, Apr 23, 2006 16:31

Nevertheless, gaining education may help us to get a very high post. If we all are educated and in high posts, we can easily gain some status in the East and form a government that will be for the people and for the better of the humanity...


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Posted on Sun, Apr 23, 2006 15:36

Salam, Wow what an interesting topic. I must say that i had to think about that for a minute. While it is true the west has much to offer that of which the Muslim countries aren't willing to, most of those who live outside their original countries are unappreciative of these many benefits. I too was raised in the west, but i value what i have because i have been back to the "old country" and have seen how they live and what they lack. It is because of the government and their people's greed as well as jealousy. I feel shame when i hear the people complain of how much they dislike it here and cant wait to go back, yet when they do go back they cant live there more than a year at a time (lol). I know a doctor whose dream was to finish school and go back to help in his country. He took a trip to visit his family there and decided to go to the hospital too get a better idea about it. After trying to give advice to a local doctor, he ended up getting into an argument and was then arrested for no reason at all. To make a long story short, he has lost that dream of trying to help his people out, and just has a bitter memory of this experience of his Islamic country and its people. What a shame to have lost this brillant surgean because of their closed mindedness. Alot of the Muslims are just in name only, they dont really practice this beautiful religion from the heart. Only when we realize these problem and are willing to change them will we be able to live better than any Western country.


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