i had night mares of the ahmedi in my house....its that man on the tv who calls himself a prophet..eeekk!!!!. since theni have never watched that channel again.
i have also heard that they have a special grave yard in Pakistan where they already decide whos going to go to heaven and whos gonna go to hell...nope i havent read what hell n heaven is descibed as by them but i dont want to know..its hard to imagine what it would be like as described in the Quran, so i would not like to know how the Ahmedis describe anything..
my kids dont know that i have nightmares on thease ppl, they would laugh coz i enjoy watching horror films.
Yes Ahmadi's are muslims.because there faith is tht GOD is one,Our Muhammad(PBUH)is last prophet.their fait is no one will come after Muhammad to preach muslims about islam in new direction,but GOD will send Nabi time to time to remind islam,to whom who has forget Muhammad's(PBUH) lessons about islam.... Hazrat Mirza Gulam Ahmed gadiyani had not preached anything new about islam, he had just sent by GOD to remind the Muhammad's(PBUH) lessons. its wrong tht Ahmadi ppl do not say prayers, they do as other muslims do
It is not bad to call a kafir kafir , because you can not call a donkey horse .
Allah Ta'ala calls them kuffar in the Quran , and muslims do not declare others kuffar randomly , THERE ARE CERTAIN RULES UGREED UPON BY ALL THE SCHOLARS OF THE MUSLIM UMMAH to declare one sect. kaffir .
I do agree with you that it is our duty to try to show the right path to them , but do you not have to first know the KAFFIR and the astray in order to guide him !!!
Ahmediyas dont do salah(prayer) and they dont fast. These are two pillars of islam.without following the pillars there is no islam. Ahmad mirza gulam is a false prophet as Allah said in the Quran Muhammad is Last prophet seal of the prophet no prophet shall come after he died. In Pakistan Ulema have degreed ahmediya being kafir.They are astray. May Allah guide the poor souls who believe in Ahmediyas thinking.
It is not our place to call ANYONE a kafir, or decree his future and destiny for him.
Only Allah knows what is in their hearts and in their destinies.
Who knows? Maybe they are better than us.
It would KILL me to be called a kafir by a fellow muslim. I was attending classes where they claimed Shi3ite were kufar - wa astaghfurallah. At the time, I was an arrogant high priestess, decreeing fatwas on sisters, brothers, the whole nation! ha! How foolish and misguided I was, may Allah forgive me.
Let's stay away from this fitna and focus on Allah. Labels and pride are only doonya doonya doonya.
>>They are kafrs. I know one. He hates it when I don't return salaams to him.
brother, you should return salaams to whomever grants it to you. their personal beliefs are between them and the Lord. as muslims, our behavior is our loudest voice. prove you are the better and give peace.
Ahmadi's are not within the fold of Islam, both the Um ah and the Ahmadi's agree on this. However they believe themselves to be the authentic Um ah and class non-Ahmadi's as non-Muslims.
However, I must say one of my best friends is a Qadianni, I have discussed this on a few occasions with him but rational discussion, I have found, is near impossible. The evidence is irrefutable in regards to Mr Gulams blasphemy when he degrades the Prophets, the Sahaba, our beloved Prophets (PB UH) family. The language that he has used when speaking about opponents, of himself, would never be used by our Prophets.
There is a very good book called "the Umaahs view on Qadiyanis'" based on the trial held in Pakistan in the late 60's early 70's. I would urge anyone who knows any Ahmadi's to read this and then present the evidence to them. In,sha Allah there hearts will be opened to the truth and that this blasphemy will come to an end.
Please treat them with respect this way they will see the beauty and respect of the true Islam.
it does not mater that if someone dont believe that qadianis are kafir because any one who dont believe that there is one god,the holy book quran is the last book,and the prophet muhammed(pbuh)the last prophet then the non beliver is out of islam.
Asslamu Alaikum
Yes they are officially declared Kafer here in Pakistan.Put donot b first to say Salam to a Marzi and if they salam u then just reply W-Alaikum as this is told by prophet(PBUH).
"In My Ummah, there shall be born Thirty Grand Liars (Dajjals),
each of whom will claim to be a prophet,
But I am the Last Prophet; there is No Prophet after Me."
(Abu Dawood Vol 2 p. 228; Tirmidhi Vol 2 p.45)
Qadianism/Mirzaiyyat/Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam has become quite a controversial issue. Muslims everywhere have strated campaigning against them. Pretending to be the Champions of islam and the only true Muslims, they are leading ignorant Muslims out of its fold. In 1988 Mirza Tahir Ahmad Qadiani, Head of the Ahmadiyya Movement and Grandson of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, issued a challenge of Mubahila, in which he labeled the entire Muslim Ummah as Disbelievers and Liars!!
yes they claim they are Muslims but they really have deep issues to deal with.
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