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Posted on Wed, Apr 06, 2005 00:53

I have been thinking about converting to islam for a while now but have only recently come across some resources that indicate that music, particularly using musical instruments, is haraam. Is this really the case? I'm a musician so this will vastly affect my decision to convert to Islam, for how could I enbrace a faith that condems what is my livelyhood. I personally can't make much sense out of this because I believe my ability to do what I do well (play music) is a gift from God, and that it can be a very powerful tool in bringing people to God. Can anyone shed some light on this topic for me?



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Posted on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 22:49

Are Singing and Music Haram?

This is a rather contraversial issue - many say yes and others say no.

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Posted on Mon, Sep 04, 2006 07:02

Drummer05. Thanks for your your comments.
But none of the comments carry any references in the Koran and Hadith. Do you not follow the Koran and Hadith, if I may ask you.
Rasul said--spread it even you know anything. So spread it to others with references otherwise we think you just made it up.

If we want to be God-fearing we must use the Koran as a guide in our daily life[Koran 2:2]. If we don't then we can not be God-fearing. All non-God fearing are either Kafeers or Hypocrites[4:145].
May Allah make us God-fearing. Ameen.



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Posted on Wed, Jul 05, 2006 20:38

Hello, I will tell you brother that music is a gift from God, and he never disobeyed it, not in the Quran that is.



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Posted on Sun, Feb 05, 2006 17:28

salaam aleikum
Allah creates us as human and doesn't expect of us to behave as angels.
music doesn't impede any one to be a Muslim. its a detail .
dear drummer u r well come in Islam ;dont worry ,as u made the decision of embracing Islam u have all the time to take the proper decision about music. may god guide your steps



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Posted on Thu, Dec 08, 2005 04:55

Salam Aleikum Bretheren...
Hope all of u and your families are doing well. Islam is being branded, by its enemies as a backward and sub-human cult that oppresses its women, suppresses the talents of its followers and fosters violence. Music can be a powerful tool in the hands of talented individuals and we've seen how music can transcend cultures and languages to make people believe and accept...

On the issue of including Ulema, i feel the Ulema have already done a lot of damage to Islam with their misinterpretations and wrongly propagated fatwas. i feel Islam is a personal religion, where and individual establishes his own relationship with god. Therein it becomes the responsiblity of the individual to study an interpret Islam according to the best of his ability. Ulema can help in rendering the meanings and proving the authenticity... but asking them to rule on something... i'm not so sure of their capabilities anymore... Just that the quran recognises that different people have different acceptance levels and levels of faith which they can attain. So learn and interpret. Use the Ulema for their knowledge only... dont be blind in ur attitude towards them. May Allah show us the right path and bless us all with paradise... Ma'salamah



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Posted on Wed, Nov 30, 2005 10:14

I'm a bit confused.. forgive me if I do not make sense.. My online friend Nour.. she sent me some music once.. before I had accepted Islam..

The music she sent, she called them "Nasheeds" and every word of this music is praise of Allah.. or to tell of the prophets...

I enjoy this music.

Also when I was learning verses for to pray.. she record them for me as singing, which made it easier for me to remember (I used to sing in the Choir at my Church before, so I learn music quickly)

If this is done solely for purposes of worshipping Allah.. how can that be wrong?

  


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Posted on Wed, Nov 09, 2005 04:54

Welcome to Submission

Your best source for ISLAM (SUBMISSION) on the Internet


WOMEN DRESS CODE

IN ISLAM



THREE RULES FOR WOMEN DRESS CODE

IN ISLAM (SUBMISSION)


FIRST RULE : THE BEST GARMENT

[7:26] "O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of GOD's signs, that they may take heed."

This is the BASIC rule of DRESS CODE in the Quran. This is the first rule in WOMEN DRESS CODE in Islam (Submission). What is inside your heart is more important for God that the dress you wear.

SECOND RULE : COVER YOUR BOSOMS

The second rule can be found in 24:31. Here God orders the women to cover their bosoms whenever they dress up. First, let us review some crucial words that are always mentioned with this topic, namely "Hijab" and "Khimar"

THE WORD "HIJAB" in the QURAN

"Hijab" is the term used by many Muslims women to describe their head cover that may or may not include covering their face except their eyes, and sometimes covering also one eye. The Arabic word "Hijab" can be translated into veil or yashmak. Other meanings for the word "Hijab" include, screen, cover(ing), mantle, curtain, drapes, partition, division, divider.

Can we find the word "Hijab" in the Quran??

The word "Hijab" appeared in the Quran 7 times, five of them as "Hijab" and two times as "Hijaban," these are 7:46, 33:53, 38:32, 41:5, 42:51, 17:45 & 19:17.

None of these "Hijab" words are used in the Quran in reference to what the traditional Muslims call today (Hijab) as a dress code for the Muslim woman.

Hijab as it appears in the Quran has nothing to do with the Muslim Women dress code.

HISTORICAL BACKGROUND:

While many Muslims call "Hijab", an Islamic dress code, they completely ignore the fact that, Hijab as a dress code has nothing to do with Islam and nothing to do with QURAN.

In reality "Hijab" is an old pre-Jewish tradition that infiltrated into the hadith books like many innovations that contaminated Islam through alleged Hadith and Sunna.

The traditional Arabs, of all religions, Jews, Christians and Muslims used to wear "Hijab," not because of Islam, but because of tradition. In certain areas of the world, men are the ones who wear the hijab while in others the women do.

THE WORD "KHIMAR" in the QURAN:

"Khimar" is an Arabic word that can be found in the Quran in 24:31 It is the word that the interpreters or translators use to claim that head cover is in the Quran. "Khimar" means, cover, any cover, a curtain is a Khimar, a dress is a Khimar, a table cloth that covers the top of a table is a Khimar, a blanket is a Khimar..etc. Most of the translators, obviously influenced by Hadith (fabrications) translate the word as VEIL or head cover, and thus mislead most people to believe that this verse is advocating the covering of the head.

In 24:31 God is asking the women to use their cover (khimar)( being a dress, a coat, a shawl, a shirt, a blouse, a tie, a scarf . . . etc.) to cover their bosoms, not their heads or their hairs. If God so willed to order the women to cover their heads or their hair, nothing would have prevented Him from doing so. GOD does not run out of words. GOD does not forget. Those who see the head cover in this verse lost their focus of the verse. The verse is ordering the women to be sure to cover their upper chest. The verse does NOT order the women to cover their heads or hair. Even if you accept their interpretation of the word Khimar to mean head cover, the verse is not ordering the women to cover their head but to cover the opening of the chest in their dress. If God wills, He would have given the order clear, cover your heads, but He did NOT. God does not wait for a Scholar to put the correct words for Him!


THIRD RULE : LENGTHEN YOUR GARMENTS

The first regulation of DRESS CODE for Muslim women is in 7:26, the second is in 24:31 and the third is in

33:59

"O prophet, tell your wives, your daughters, and the wives of the believers that they shall LENGTHEN their garments. Thus, they will be recognized and avoid being insulted. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful." 33:59

In 33:59, God sets the other regulation for the dress code for the Muslim women during the prophet's life.

Although the verse is talking to the prophet which means this regulation applies to the time of the prophet, just like the order in 49:2, the description fits the spirit of Islam (Submission in English), and can teach us a great deal.

In this verse, God, DELIBERATELY, said, tell them, to lengthen their garments, and never said how long is long. God could have said tell them to lengthen their garments to their ankles or to their mid-calf or to their knees, but HE DID NOT. He did not, OUT OF HIS MERCY, not because HE FORGOT as God does not forget. God knows that we will be living in different communities and have different cultures and insists that the minor details of this dress code will be left for the people of every community to hammer for themselves.

It is clear from the above verses that the DRESS CODE for the Muslim women (Submitters) according to the Quran is righteousness and modesty. God knows that this modesty will be understood differently in different communities and that is why He left it open to us to decide for ourselves.

CONCLUSION:

God, the Most Merciful, gave us three basic rules for the Dress Code for Women in Islam (Submission),

(1) The BEST garment is the garment of righteousness.

(2) Whenever you dress , cover your chest (bosoms).

(3) Lengthen your garment.

While these three BASIC rules may not sound enough for those who do not trust God, the TRUE believers know that God is ENOUGH. God could have given us more details to the point of having graphs, designs and color rules, but He , the Most Merciful, wants to give us exactly these very basic rules and leave the rest for us. After these three basic rules every woman is more aware of her circumstances and can adjust her dress for her situation. Any addition to these basic Quranic rules is an attempt to correct God or improve on His merciful design.

We have no obligation to follow but God's rules, just as His messenger did all the time. Innovations and fabrications that added thousands of rules to the women dress code are nothing but idol-worship and should be refused.



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Posted on Tue, Nov 08, 2005 09:44

Assam - Mualaikum
Ibrahim2000
( and the only thing I can tell you is do what you think will please Allah(swt)
What you are saying as though you pleased Allah when you played a guitar or drum.
Frankly i played a guitar myself, but while playing to get the feeling and kick on it, i have forgotten Allah for a while. Masya Allah.
I cant played the guitar while remembering Allah both at same time, likewise i can do do other thing and remember Allah both at the same time.
May Allah forgive me.



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Posted on Tue, Nov 08, 2005 09:40

Assam - Mualaikum
Ibrahim2000
( and the only thing I can tell you is do what you think will please Allah(swt)
What you are saying as though you pleased Allah when you played a guitar or drum.
Frankly i played a guitar myself, but while playing to get the feeling and kick on it, i have forgotten Allah for a while. Masya Allah.
I cant played the guitar while remembering Allah both at same time, likewise i can do do other thing and remember Allah both at the same time.
May Allah forgive me.



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Posted on Tue, Oct 25, 2005 08:38

hey its so nice dat ur so into ur career da music thing,but da fack is its only beings need GOD and its not da other way so if u think u will b doin any good to anyone by converting to islam so u should hav a second thougt coz pple eat to satisfy themself not anybody bussiness so da same way is islam it doesn't care who converts or lives da reliogion so so join da right religion and u may sivivie the panishment of hell. wish u all da beh in ur convertion!
hey its so nice dat ur so into ur career da music thing,but da fack is its only beings need GOD and its not da other way so if u think u will b doin any good to anyone by converting to islam so u should hav a second thougt coz pple eat to satisfy themself not anybody bussiness so da same way is islam it doesn't care who converts or lives da reliogion so so join da right religion and u may sivivie the panishment of hell. wish u all da beh in ur convertion!

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Posted on Sun, Sep 18, 2005 20:01

Assalamu alaikum.
First off, I would like to welcome the brother to the religion/deen or whatever you wish to call it. One of the most famous sayings of the Prophet (PBUH) is "All works are by intention" so it is possible to do something that you think is good but in fact is wrong etc. You will still be rewarded for your intention by Allah even if your understanding is flawed. With that being said, I agree with one of the brothers here that it is an issue that involves a lot of ikhtilaf. I would like to say that its not appropriate for any of us here to give you our opinions about haram or halal like we are muftis (as he said this is a forum and not appropriate for such things). I would also just like to point out a bit of methodology that is appropriate. One of the biggest problems nowadays is the confusion regarding daleel dthani (sources such as hadith are not considered mutawattir (famous) sources and are as such problematic when talking about things that are issues of difference amongst the Muslims) vs daleel qata'ee (Quran). As a methodology its problematic to interpret Quran using hadith. What would make more sense is to use Quran to interpret hadith since hadith cannot contradict Quran (as they many times do...such as the death penalty for zina). Quran mentions no such death penalty for zina and you would think that something so important as a death penalty for zina would considered to be of paramount importance as to be considered to be within Quran if there really was such a death penalty. I throw out these ideas neither advocating nor refuting them but to discuss them and to get people to at least think. Wasalam.



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Posted on Sun, Aug 28, 2005 13:38

AOA drummer
nice to hear that u converted to muslim i think u did a lot of research on this religion but i dont really agree with u that music is allowed in islam .
ok its hard for me to explain to ppl what i think but i m going to try
you r right the quran only said thatthe music tht effect you concentration would not be played but i have some questions for u if u can ans
1) how can we decide that whish music effect our concentration and which does not?
2) where in quran it says that u can play music
i mean it only say u canot play musich which effect ur concentration but it dosent say u can play other musics

if i couldnt explain my point well i m sorry about that
take care AH(F)



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Posted on Sat, Aug 27, 2005 14:03

asalamulaikum wa rahamatullah, ive read about the problem with regards to music.the only thing i can say brother is that allaah is our lord, he loves us more than a mother would love her child.therefore he has set these laws for a reason, if something is haraam we should accept it abd say alhamdolilah.we may not no the reason why,but if were patient with alaahs decree and laws then inshlaah jannah is ours. alaah clearly prohibits music in the quran in sorrah al luqman read it and ur heart will become content. indded in the rememembernce of the lord the hearts find tranquality.
wasalamualikum wa rahamtullah



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Posted on Sat, Jul 30, 2005 20:46

salaam to all,
The only reason that i have been at ease with and make sence to me is that whilst you are in the enjoyment of anything whether that be music or dancing , then u will be in a state where u will be oblivious of your sences. You should always remember god in good and bad times. The reason that i can think of is that whilst enjoying music u will have lost ur concentration for god and will be open for attack by evil deeds.
Hope i have made sence of what iwas thinking.



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Posted on Wed, Jun 15, 2005 17:20

Salam Aleikum..
Hope yall are in good health isa.
The discussion about music and if its halal or not, isnt a discussion that this forum is suitable for. We muslims really need to recognise or limitations and leave difficult discussions like this to the Ulamah isa. with that said id like to show my support to our brother IBRAHIM2000 and his words, focus on urself and on the main issues. Do u stand and pray at night till ur feets bleed? If not then why give out fatwas when theres ikhtilaf about this subject...? Stay focused..



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Posted on Thu, May 12, 2005 13:52

Assalamoalikum,
Dear Ibrahim2000,
Can u tell me from where u read weak hadith about music?
(Sahih Bukhari,Sahih Muslim)
Best regards
Maaslama



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Posted on Mon, May 09, 2005 12:58

Dear drummer05,

I have read your beautiful views on God gift.
I am muslim by bearth.
I played base guitar and I was Drum lover.I sang in concerts. Till I realize that Allah has forbidden these things.

Allah is our creater and if Allah is not liking something it means their is something wrong with that thing which we cannot understand or see.

Islam is the final,complete,purest and beautiful religion from Allah.

If u love Allah and Mohammad (Rasool Allah SalaAllaho alyhi wasalam) then dont worry about bringing others in Islam by the help of Music because
think of the ways that brings u near Islam. Those ways were singing?

Don't worry about your earnings. Allah is there for u. every time, every second.

If u have any question or confusion feel free to contact me.

Best Regards



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Posted on Sun, May 08, 2005 19:43

IBRAHIM2000, asalaam wa leikum, your profile catches my attention everytime get in contact with me



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Posted on Fri, May 06, 2005 20:48

I really enjoy all music. I believe that good music is good music regardless of genre. When you label something you put it in box and it looses it's true value. I believe that all music is a gift from Allah. But, most of the "types" of music I specialize in is jazz, funk, blues, and "not so heavy" rock and roll and have even played in symphony orchestras and even country bands. The only thing I really don't like is vulgar or profane lyrics. Other than that all music is good.



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