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marrying twice in a country where its forbidden would you??
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Posted on Thu, Nov 02, 2006 06:22

Asalam Alaikum Brothers and sisters

Living in australia i can say its against the law hear to marry more then one wife at a time.
As its been forseen that in our religion many of the greatest prophets that have come have married more then once at a time,Yes indeed more commonly because the women that was married the second time round there husband was slain in a war etc etc.
In this age of living that reason wouldnt be used as much especially here in australia.How ever i see many fello muslim brothers doing it,
Now correct me if im wrong but doesnt Shari law forbid you to go against the laws of the land you are apart of?
If and when i do get married Inshalla of course would i be in the wrong if i chose to marry again whilst living in a country that doesnt allow it?
Obviuosly if i went to the government here told them i legally divorced the first one but trully in my heart didnt then went out again and got married would this still be Haram?As i would be looking after them both as equals of course under strict guide lines the Quran has set.But as i said would this still be Haram?
ANd if so or not would you still do it?



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Posted on Sat, Mar 24, 2007 10:20

As salaamu alaikum,
Thank you ahki for making my point so short and sweet.
I have no intention of going to the government to have them(the kufr) validate my marriage unless my wife comes from another country. And I would be doing that only because she couldn't stay otherwise.



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Posted on Wed, Mar 21, 2007 22:22

Here in america, people with knowledge of the Religion and teachers of the Religion get married to 2 or more wives. You do not need paperwork to be officially married, you only need certain number of Muslim witnesses (im not sure how many) and both parties have to say I accept you as my wife/husband. Islam is simple.



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Posted on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 00:22

I'm not Muslim but I still agree with bagi9 that nothing can be above God's law - and by the way I think polygami should be legal if all parts agreed to it.

So I think that bagi9's reasoning makes total sense.

H



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Posted on Sun, Dec 10, 2006 03:42

salaam brother well i think that u are living in the wrong country..we dont have that problem here..have to check up on ur countrys law brother im sure that there is an islamic parliment of some sort which can give u the law..as for englang theres guyz here who have four wives let alone 2.

ur all ready bald brother why would u want to lose the little that u have left by thinking about getting married to a 2nd wife????...hair today gone tommorrow..



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Posted on Mon, Nov 06, 2006 06:12

I'm not sure what ulemaa you were talking to, but that is another topic.
No law can be put over Allah's law. To do so takes one right out of the folds of Islam. But again, yes we have to respect the laws of the land we live in, but only up to the point were they contradict Allah's law. Again I don't not know the system in Australia, I'm from the USA. We do have muslims that think they must go to the kufr and get paperwork from them saying that they are married. Is this how the Qur'an wa Sunnah tells us to marry? Not as far as I know, not that I'm somebody of knowledge (I'm far from that). What I've read, listened to in lectures from the ulemaa and so on, is that the marriage should be announced in the community that you are living in so that no one assumes that your fornicating and so forth. How is not telling the government that you live in being misleading? We are not to put the kufr above the affairs of the muslims, so how can I put them (kufr) over my marriage?



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Posted on Sun, Nov 05, 2006 15:49

Asalam Alaikum Baqi
Once again thanking you kindly for reading my post.Hmm well i do intend to agree with some what over Alla's law prevails over all laws.But it is Allas Law also saying we must respect and obey the law of the land that we live in.I think also you made a very valid point aslo to inform the government that you have amrried twice would be Haram obviously against there law,how ever visiting the Sheik to marry in the eyes of alla and not to tell the government of this would still be Misleading.As its not exactly telling the truth.As ive spoken to variuos sheiks here as they would not allow you to marry6 a second time in a country that doesnt allow it.So if the Sheiks dont allow this to happen how is it possible to do the right thing as you said to ensure you help your self lower your gazes marriage is soughted for,But if ones urges are much more then others how can this be contained.
A Interesting topic to think about i think..

Asalam Alaikum



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Posted on Sat, Nov 04, 2006 04:35

We are allowed to obey the laws of the land as long as they do not go against Allah's law. And from what I understand do not cause a greater fitnah for the muslims.
Question, why are the muslims going to the kufaar to acknowledge their marriage? We in the states have this same problem, but those of us that follow the way of the salaf do not go to the kufaar for marriage. Note this...if you do not go to them to acknowledge the marriage, you do not have to worry about braking their law. Simple right? Allah's law is above their, so try to stick to it as best you can.

One other thing on polygney. The practice was "not" done only because of a shortage of men from wars. The arabs were known to have many wives before they reverted. The law of Islam put justice into this practice. An nabi SAWS said that a man should marry to help lower their gaze. This has nothing to do with a war, except maybe the one with the devils. It is sad, but I have heard from brothers and sisters aspects on polygeny that have nothing to do with this sunnah. Very sad indeed.



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